• ADS Look Sensitivity Modifier
• Look Sensitivity higher than 10
• Aim Smoothing toggle on/off or slider
• Stick Dead Zone settings
• Make Traction into a toggleable setting
• Separate Horizontal/Vertical Sensitivity

Now that we have 60fps and a higher frame of view, please give us sensitivity options higher than 10. Coming over from any other FPS feels like moving through molasses when turning, even at 10 sensitivity.

It’s obscene to me that hunters can jump faster then you can move your reticle. Gives them a huge advantage.

2021 and controllers are still REQUIRED to use the traction mod, even when they removed any actual bonuses to having it on.
There's a lot of things Bungie seems to neglect when it comes to controllers

I was literally having this problem yesterday and it boggles my mind. Thanks for bringing it up.

It's embarrassing how bad the controller support for this game is.

I agree. I run 10 sens and it’s too slow..it needs to be raised to 20 on next gen especially with the higher fov.

I moved to a Series X recently. I finally got an upgrade for my time playing Destiny! I got... a better frame rate and a standard FOV slider. That’s it. Those should be standard, but we still need more accessibility or tuning options as well.

DUDE! Preach. I have to play on 4 myself because of ADS. But If i could have everything else on 10+ It would be nice. Being able to map Vertical Sensitivity as well would be nice.

I can't believe there are still no decimals allowed for the PC mouse settings.

I, and many others, would just like a separate slider for when we're ads. I would love to be able to turn around at a 9 or 10 speed, but be able to control a sniper at a 4 or 5. Bit we can't have both, but pc can for some reason

I hope they do this before cross play comes or it’s just going to be a cluster

It's unfortunate my boots have one less mod slot because traction is mandatory.

And instead of fixing it [traction] by making it an option they put a bandaid on the traction mod by making it 0 capacity AND for some reason nerfing the hidden mobility on it that made it kind of worthwhile for consoles.
With that Bungie actually widened the gap between console and pc players...

It simultaneously acknowledged the problem, and didn’t fix it.

Wish I could get it [Traction] to drop! Gah!

AND ITS [Traction] A FUCKING RANDOM DROP. I'VE GONE OVER A YEAR AND A HALF WITHOUT GETTING IT.

It is irritating how massive a difference traction makes, because it takes away mod slots. Its a 0 cost mod, except who cares because I dont need 10 across the other three.

Yo bungie, its been YEARS now and we still have no option for deadzone or fine tuning our aiming sensitivity. I personally always run games like call of duty with a super high camera sensitivity and a significantly lower aiming sensitivity. With destiny that is just not possible and I'd love if that was implemented.

We need to be able to have different ads and hipfire sensitivities as well as more sensitivities higher than 10

I’ve found that one of the hardest things to do is literally just shooting someone that jumps over my head because the sensitivity is so low. I play PC with a controller and man if a Hunter triple jumps over my head I lose sight of em for a good few seconds

Especially before they go cross play and open console up to pc world. Pc has so much more precision with mnk and incredibly movement speed. They can turn a 180 in a flick of the wrist. Meanwhile, console players have to put a mod on their legs just to not move and turn like a slug.

As someone who got gifted a friend's old xbox because she wanted me to play with her before destiny 2 finally goes cross platform...oh my god, this is so wrong. Even with aim assist, my accuracy goes into the toilet with a controller versus mouse and keyboard. Plus I feel like SMGs and snipers are basically unusable with controller. Not being able to snap my head on command and feeling like I'm moving through molasses... Iss not great

I’d love some auto sprint option. I have a bad hand and clicking the stick to sprint is painful after a bit. Makes me keep my destiny sessions usually short these days. And a sensitivity above 10 would be a blessing for my friend he’s been asking if that’s ever coming for years.

Chaos reach feels like a joke on console now that I’ve played on pc. You can practically outrun it.

I have a friend who refused to play this game with me because there isn't enough sensitivity options.

I've had this complaint for years now 😂

Man I would absolutely love this. I just switched to PC and I absolutely love the mobility. However since I've been playing console for 20 years, I miss the feeling of controllers. The main downside of the controller experience is the trash sensitivity cap. I keep telling my friends that if bungie ever boosts that 10 sensitivity cap (that feels like 5 in other FPS games, let's be honest) to 20 or so, I would use my controller over everything tbh

Increase the max sensitivity from 10 to say 15 and I’d take that over a whole season tbh

It's both. The games deadzones are set to a massive 24 and the aim acceleration makes it really slow even on high sensitivity. But we do need an ads sensitivity setting as well this isn't 2007 anymore and Bungie needs to get with the program

I personally think console feels horrible.

Every time I want to snipe it need to lower my ads to 8 or less but since I mostly play at 10 l I forget to switch and it messes up my shots

Using chaos reach on a controller is just sad 😥

It's bizarre that there's now an fov slider and 60-120hz but still no separate ads sensitivity.
I wholeheartedly agree with this. I shelved Destiny for almost 2 years and when i came back i was stunned to see that there was still only one freaking settings for Aim sensitivity.
I mean, at the very least have a freaking ADS modifier....

Deadzones and options for sensitivity curves are needed also. Especially with cross play on the way. Giving controller players more options helps bridge the gap between controller and m & kb

Traction functions as a sensitivity boost and its 0 cost

Dude seriously. I like low ADS speed but my character turns like a wide load truck.

You definitely have to run traction which blows. Game does feel much better at 105fov though.

I too am tired of turning around like a senior citizen with a bad hip. This game is just notoriously slow when it comes to movement on console and controllers in general

Traction is just a controller tax. Change my mind.

I played Rainbow Six Siege for 3 years straight on a pretty high sensitivity. I got used to flicking to people and making aggressive plays because I had faith in myself that I could turn to the enemy. When I made the switch to Destiny, if I was aiming to the right and the guy was on the left, it was ‘gg’, ‘well played.’ All I want is a faster sens

After playing other games that allow me to reduce my dead zone, Destiny's dead zone feels so noticeable.

Remove all the unnecessary recoil added to controllers while you’re at it. Makes no sense that even on PC, using a controller literally changes how guns function.
I would totally support a complete overhaul of the aim settings, it’s way overdue. I would so happily trade a season’s worth of content for an improvement to the way the game feels to play.

Could play on pc? Pcmr lol. Yeah the turn speed blows tho, part of why I refuse to ever go back to a controller. Once you get a taste of how responsive a mouse feels it’s hard to go back to turning slower then the transport truck at a tight intersection does

There’s no settings for ads sensitivity, aim assist, dead zones, or how the sensitivity ramps up

They need this bad. I have a few friends that would play Destiny, but having to adjust to the ads from COD and other FPS is to much of a pain.

Thing is that the aiming settings are more so exclusive to KBM than PC in general
I like playing with controller on PC and I literally can't adjust those settings either, even though they're right there on the other possible input system

YES!!! This also applies to PC (I play D2 on controller on PC).
I have tested this:
Max controller sensitivity on Destiny2 (10) is 30% slower than Black ops CW and 40% slower than Warframe.
Also Warframe and Black ops have way more controller settings.
This is my main reason I never bought the game and always play f2p for 2 weeks and than its just annoying.
I think D2 can steal allot of players from Warframe if they increase controller settings. The one big attraction from Warframe is how responsive and fast movement is.

As an Xbox player, I have never had as much fun playing destiny as I have in the past week. The next-gen enhancements were absolutely phenomenal and kudos to Bungie for delivering us console users what feels like “a brand new game”.
However, the increased FOV has brought up some more concerns for me with current sensitivity options we have on controllers. I won’t even get into the discussion on whether traction should be a base game setting, because I’ve given up hope on that being changed. With the amount of aiming customization on games like Apex Legends it’s kind of a bummer that we’re locked into just a 1-10 slider.
The primary point of this post is that even on 10 sensitivity with traction, I feel like I’m turning incredibly slow. I would love some higher sensitivity options, and even the ability to adjust vertical and horizontal sensitivity separately would be amazing. I’m sure this has been brought up before, but with how amazing the game feels on the new consoles I can’t help but feel like it could be even better.
TL;DR: Next-gen console destiny on 105 FOV feels amazing, but I feel slow. Lemme break my neck at light-speed pls

Have you ever activated Chaos Reach or Blade Barrage and just couldn't get it to change directions fast enough? What's the matter, 3.5 seconds on max settings to turn 180° isn't quick enough?
How about high end PvP on Console and get into CQC and go to shotgun the player that flew past you, but you're max settings were just too slow and you died? Or simply trying to trace your primary across a fast moving enemy and just can't because it's too slow?
Or how about just simple shooting one enemy and turning to shoot another then back again, but because half that time was spent moving your aim, you died yet again?
Or how about slide-aiming? Max settings hardly gives me enough to no time to slide, turn, and get a good shot out; or slide to dodge away like M&K, this I know well because I do it a lot.

Many people switch game to game. For example cod to destiny. The difference in sensitivity makes destiny feel very slow. With next gen I feel it is the perfect time to increase sensitivity. It feels very slow even with traction mods and 10 sensitivity. Also this would help in cross gen if it were to be pc -console. Also it would help in raids especially Atraks having to scan everywhere. But overall just adding this quality of life feature and allowing us to have above 10 sensitivity would feel amazing. Please consider it bungie.

A lot of people have been asking for these features for so long. Currently traction is a must have as it kinda mitigates aim acceleration. No ads sensitivity also means you really need to play on lower sensitivities if you want to be able effectively aim. I used to play on ten and got pretty decent but hand cannons were such a pain to use unless they had high AA so I brought it down to eight and it feels much better while adsing. But that’s the thing, it feels worse out of ADS, since my turn speed is now a decent bit slower than it was on ten sensitivity. I’m kinda stuck in limbo right now until these changes happen.

After ramping up the FOV to max and playing around with the new settings on PS5 I soon realised that the speed at which your camera turns isn’t fast enough anymore on console.
Please can we get an increase?
Thanks

Not just this, being able to change vertical and horizontal sensitivity independently would be a god send, I hate having a nice speedy horizontal sensitivity and then go to look up, especially in crucible, and feel like something is trying to push my head back down.

Hey Bungie,
Now that the next-gen versions of the game are out, I feel that there should be more sensitivity increments beyond 10. It’s something that I just noticed playing on PS5, and it is not enough especially playing with a higher field of view like at 105, it feels slow. It could use some more options.
Anybody else agree?
p.s. Hawkmoon is sick as hell...

And this post is now another example.
It's a shame how common it is, and Destiny is the only community I see so regularly against it. The most common comments I see against it in posts are along the lines, "I don't see a problem/controls feel great". When it comes to requested aim assist options, you get the, "it's impossible to play without it" or, "you'd never use it".
Extra options at worst are a neutral addition and at best drastically improve the experience. It's even more backwards when Bungie's supposed to be known for their controller aiming, but their controls stagnated a decade ago.

Having one single setting dictate your aiming and looking sensitivity is outdated and has been needing a change for a long time. Every other FPS has MULTIPLE ways to fine tune your sensitivity to your liking. Horizontal stick sensitivity, vertical stick sensitivity, seperate ADS Sensitivity from look sensitivity, stick deadzones, and Destiny just has... "sensitivity". This would've been great for 2013 but I feel like its time it was brought up with the rest of the FPS games.

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So a lot of you like to use the call-out 'He's one'...

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You mentioned in a comment on Reddit that Respawn "aren't masters of manipulation."
At first, this sounds consistent with the senior product manager working on Apex Legends posting on the Apex blog that the team "made a series of improvements to the challenge system in Season 7 to make Battle Pass progression more streamlined and rewarding."
However, that same PM posted on his Linkedin page that he "tuned battlepass content to drive a material increase to the purchase rate without added development cost."... This sounds like manipulation...
Can you elaborate on your comments?

His LinkedIn doesn't say anything about season 7, but refers to changes he shipped about six months ago. It's old. And "purchase rate" refers to popularity and sales of the Battle Pass (which, yes, of course we want more people to buy it, there's nothing to hide there).
I actually reached out to him and asked him to clarify on his LinkedIn that it's in reference to a past season.

• (The profile is now private, due to the Dev being doxxed and sent messages on Facebook, also likely sent threats as us mods had to see a bit of that)
• (Every repost regarding this has also been removed due to Ryan confirming it was not the case and for said doxxing & threats us mods witnessed)

What was wrong with last season's pass? Was only slightly rolling back the battle pass actually a negotiation tactic like some people have said?

Before I get into the reason for the battlepass change, I'll start by saying that the team has the player's best interests in mind, and we are not trying to play negotiation games with our players. Respawn is made up of passionate gamers just like yourself. We also aren't trying to secretly force you all into buying more battlepass levels. I promise you everyone here on the team are good people, passionate gamers, and just want whats best for the game.
There were really 2 changes to the battle pass, each had its own reason. First, we streamlined the challenge system to reward stars, and 10 stars is a battlepass level. We implemented this change with the intent to simplify how the battlepass works and more clearly indicate what a challenge is worth. The second change was to the difficulty or time investment needed on the challenges. We've seen in our data that most players were completing the battlepass about 2/3 through the season and then not having much left do to in the season. We believed that players would enjoy playing the game if they always had something to progress and earn, so we adjusted our challenges to hopefully give players something to accomplish in that final month of a season. This change had the players intest in mind, and was calculated in a manner that would still allow the majority of our players to finish leveling without purchasing additional levels.
The battlepass is about keeping players engaged throughout the season, so we're not trying to do you wrong here. Obviously when these changes went live we heard your feedback loud and clear, and quickly put in a change that makes the challenges roughly 50% easier to complete, and we have more changes planned in the future to give players more agency on challenge completion. We appriciate your feedback on this change, but also please keep in mind that Respawn always has your interests in mind, so please assume positive intent!

Hey Ryan.
Are there any plans/discussions to switch the XP per star requirements back to scaling XP instead of a fixed 5k?

I wouldn't put anything off the table. We're planning more changes, but would probably give the most recent changes at least a little time to breathe to see what kind of impact they have.
FWIW, there's two main questions we're asking when we think about this stuff:

1. Are people going to finish their battle pass super early because of the changes we just shipped? This is something we're debating because dailies give more now. This might be something we decide doesn't actually matter! But it's something we're thinking about.
2. Even if "the numbers make sense" and WE think the system is good, are players still saying it FEELS bad, after they've had a couple weeks with it? If so, we probably have work to do.

Hope this makes sense. I know it doesn't fully answer your question but it should give you a better sense of where our heads are at.

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How is it possible that no one questioned this prior to the season release? Plenty of users have done the math on how much more you have to grind to complete the current pass, so how was it possible that all of you didn't consider the new changes problematic?

This is a great question, and something we are asking ourselves as well. We definitely have a bit of a blindspot when it comes to testing that we're trying to resolve, but I'll explain why it exists and what we're doing going forward.
When it comes to testing, our internal playtests are quite different than playing the live game for many reason. For one, we're playtesting with only about 200 players in a single queue, versus the millions of players in the live game. This means 2 things. First, it means that our queue times are longer between matches, so we inadvertintly play the game a bit differently knowing that we can't just jump right into another match when we die. Second, it means we have all skill levels in the same match, from highly skilled to not so skilled. This also has an impact as to how the game is played, and can change our thoughts on the difficulty of a particular challenge. That said, we absolutely do have data from the live game that we can use, so let me get to my second point regarding development.
While working on season 7 our playtests and development was focused on the big ticket items like Horizon, Olympus, Trident, Clubs, etc. The battlepass content and challenges are actually created very late in the process, so this gives us a condensed timeframe to get actual testing on the final challenges. I know you're screaming at your monitor right now, thinking something like "WHY WOULD YOU NOT TEST THIS MORE". I get it, and it's the same thing we screamed at ourselves earlier this week.
Our data from prior seasons was used to aide in challenge balancing, and our analytics team believes that the new values would still earn you the 100 battlepass levels by playing the same number of hours you played last season to earn 100 levels, but it was in a different pace. The newer design is going to be slower at the start of a week and faster at the end of a week, previous seasons were opposite allowing you to complete the weeklies relatively quickly and have less progression later that week. From a math perspective we believe the numbers add up the same in the end, but I agree this does not feel as good to a player, and that's hard to know until you play it.
Making games is hard, it always feels like when you put focus in one area you have issues arise somewhere else. We have some new processes in place now to make sure we're getting more progression testing going forward and I'm hopeful we can avoid things like this in the future.

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When are you fixing this thing?

We read a lot of comments like "Fix the game", "Fix your servers!", or "This game is broken". We really do want to help, but generic questions like these are not very useful. We fix hundreds of bugs a month, constantly look at crash info on our backend, and watch videos and listen to issues posted online, but when someone simply says "Fix your game" it would be more effective to speak to your specific issue in detail.
Sometimes issues could be specific to your platform, your datacenter, your PC specs, and we also need to know what you're referring to! I promise you we are listening and trying to help, but generic "fix the game!" don't help as much as the more detailed threads we get.

Will anyone be able to refund their Season 7 Battlepass? I just spoke with a representative who said they do not refund Apex Coins spent on a Battlepass or the Battlepass itself.
I would like my $11.13 back in total or at least my Apex Coins back so I can spend them on a skin. I know my friends feel the same way I do.

Parking a comment here. It's absolutely a fair question.
I don't actually know our policy, so I'm going to go ask and then report back here with what the policy actually is, regardless of whether the answer is popular or not. (may take a few hours)
5:46PM UPDATE: It’s Friday evening and I haven’t gotten a clear answer. For now, whatever EA support agents are telling you is the policy. I’ve heard that they’ll refund coins bought but not passes. I’m going to update this comment again by EOD Monday (72 hours from now) and will confirm whether I’ve heard differently.

Ok, thank you for responding! I greatly appreciate it. Would you mind seeing if having bought the BP through Steam affects refunds? Because it shouldnt, you should be able to refund on either platform.

Ah, this does actually have a very clear answer. When buying through a third-party platform (like Steam), you gotta go through their customer service. It’s true for third party platforms like PlayStation and Xbox too.
That policy page: https://help.ea.com/en-us/help/account/returns-and-cancellations/

Why do you lock the most sought after cosmetics in (mini-)"events", like Halloween (Wraith's "Emerald Enchantress", Bloodhound's "Wicked Harvest"), or September Soiree ("Clocktane", for example) behind the most expensive bundles?
Why do you force people to purchase an entire bundle of skins if they only want to purchase an individual skin from said bundle, alienating a core audience that would otherwise buy a few individual skins?
Why do you consider recolors of previously released legendary skins to be worth full legendary skin price (and won't allow purchases through Legend Tokens for owners of the base skins)?
Any comment on the backlash surrounding bundles?

We're always trying to iterate, learn, and improve. In this year's Halloween event we tried to provide some value bundles to our players to purchase many legendary skins at a discounted price. We saw a lot of people engaging with that discounted bundle but also heard feedback that some players wanted to purchase a skin a-la-carte. We had planned a similar structure for an upcoming event that we have since changed based on your feedback.
We're always trying to provide multiple avenues to content, some avenues being free, some paid, some craftable, and some bundled. That doesn't mean that all content will always be available by all means, but the goal is to provide all of our players with a stream of content. Of course, we need to sell some things, or this entire team doesn't get to keep working on a game we love, but it's important for us to make sure we feel our monetization strategies are fair and not predatory. You've seen examples of this with our collection events where we offer items a-la-carte via apex coins or crafting metals, but offer event apex packs at a discount for those who aren't as specific about which item they're seeking. Iterate, learn, improve!

How many hours per day is the average player intended to play in order to complete Season 7's battlepass without buying any tiers?
Feeling like I'm not making any progress with my somewhat limited playtime is not a good feeling.

It's something we haven't totally settled on, to be super honest.
Sometimes "hours to complete" IS set as a target for daily challenges (aiming for around 1.5 for most of those currently, although debating whether we're hitting that mark) and for weeklies (they tend to be targeted at something between 2-10).
If playing makes it feel like you're making no progress, that's a sign we've got more to do, imho. Will push to get it right.

I’ll take a shot at this.
What’s your status on Audio and how do you handle dealing with the constant “fix your audio Respawn” ?

We are well aware that we have some audio issues, so hear you loud and clear. We have several developers dedicated at this point to solving our audio bugs and we're doing everything we can to get those improvements into the game ASAP. It's been very helpful to get more detailed information on these issues, like video clips. The "fix your audio" comments are really more of a distraction to us solving the problem than useful, so please continue to provide more detailed information that will ultimately help us track all issues down.
I'll also quickly mention some of the work we're doing right now to improve audio throughout the game:
* Adding falling/flying sounds to legends. There are many times where enemies can be silent as they drop off a cliff and land right near you.* Retuning thousands of footstep audio events.* Moved footstep audio to permanently reside in memory instead of streaming in as needed, due to us finding that in some cases footsteps would not play due to I/O bottlenecks on certain hardware.* Increase volume and falloff of jumps and land events* Dynamic mixing of enemy footsteps vs other sound events* Occlusion improvements to help with enemy location awareness.
We also see that non-footstep events fail to play occasionaly. To be honest, we have no idea why. We have some theories but no smoking gun. Debugging is very difficult as it's a complex system. There are hardware reasons a sound can fail, it could be a bug in our sound event triggering logic, it could be a network code issue, or an audio priority system bug. Our audio engineering team has spent the last few months building a new tool that we're about to roll out, that will be invisible to our users, but allow us to collect the debugging data we need when these sound bugs occur so that we can get concrete evidence of what's failing.
Fixing live game issues like this is important, and we have some very smart people working very hard on it.

How does the SBMM algorithm work?

As a game that requires 60 people to play, we prioritize making matches quickly over creating "the perfect match." This is mostly noticeable in small regions or late night sessions. (this is why I don't really identify our system as "SBMM") This is why you'll see some variance in who is in your match. We assume you'd rather play a match than sit in a queue for 10 minutes. This goes for Ranked, too. We wait longer to make more fair matches here, but eventually we want all our players to actually play, so will merge ranks to start a game. To be fair, I don't think this system is flawless and we are discussing improvements.
I don't believe it's any secret that I won't share with you exactly how our matchmaking system works.
For a few reasons! It's probably exploitable if you tried hard enough. Even if it's not exploitable in any meaningful way, it doesn't mean players wouldn't try weird stuff to try to exploit it.
It also changes often! We can make tweaks on the back end relatively quickly and we don't broadcast those tweaks. Some times we are running a test to see if a particular tweak to the math makes players play longer, or lowers queue times, etc. We don't broadcast changes so that our tests can be untainted. Typical experiment guidelines. Caustic approved.
We also believe that the game is best when you are trying to play "for real", even in pubs. We've seen real data that shows people who lose OR WIN too much have a much higher chance to stop playing forever. The game feels best when the pacing of wins comes more earned against players of similar skill.
A common comment I see is that players don't want to sweat in pubs, but they also don't want to get steamrolled in pubs. You can't have both. If you have VERY tight skill based matchmaking, you'll have sweaty matches because it's like a mirror match fight-yourself boss fight. If you have no skill based matchmaking, you might get some free kills, but someone is going to be MUCH better than you in that lobby and you will get steamrolled swifty.
So, yeah - complicated question gets complicated answer. I hope it at least answers why you might get the less than perfect match every time, and that we are always working on trying to improve match quality and queue times.